Ingrid Fetell Lee (Episode 23)

Sacred Conversation On Work

Episode 23

In Episode 23, Carol talks with Ingrid Fetell Lee, a designer and author whose groundbreaking work reveals the hidden influence of our surroundings on our emotions and wellbeing. The author of Joyful: The Surprising Power of Ordinary Things to Create Extraordinary Happiness, and founder of the website, The Aesthetics of Joy, Ingrid empowers people to find more joy in life and work through design.

People often think of joy as frivolous or childish. In this conversation, you’ll hear how it is anything but—and how it our natural way of thriving life’s ups and downs. Listen in as Carol and Ingrid explore how the physical world connects to the emotional one. How does joy connect with the physical world?

You’ll learn the things that universally spark joy, across cultures and individuals, how joy impacts productivity in the workplace, and the simple and affordable ways to create a sense of wellbeing by tweaking one’s environment. Ingrid gives three practical tips for a more joyful workplace. We wrap up with thoughts on giving yourself permission and being brave.

Ingrid Fetell Lee is a former design director at IDEO. Her immensely popular TED talk “Where Joy Hides and How to Find it” has been viewed more than 17 million times.

Ingrid has been featured as an expert on design and joy by outlets such as The New York Times, Wired, Psychology Today, and Fast Company. She has over twelve years of experience in design and branding, having led design programs for Target, Condé Nast, Eileen Fisher, American Express, Kate Spade, Diageo, Pepsico, and the US government, among others. She was a founding faculty member in the Products of Design program at the School of Visual Arts in New York City.

Ingrid holds a Master’s in Industrial Design from Pratt Institute and a Bachelor’s in English and Creative Writing from Princeton University. She loves pancakes, polka dots, and rainbow sprinkles, and has an extensive repertoire of happy dances for any occasion.

For more information on Ingrid please visit her website:

Find her on Instagram: @aestheticsofjoy




HOST: Carol Ross,

GUEST: Ingrid Fetell Lee,


GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

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